eight of the 11 admitted use. the other three it has been the lawyers. >> if i am understanding your testimony and that of linn goldberg, we don't have a plethora of false positives which suggest the science is fairly accurate. we have is an understatement on the use of hgh because of the regularity of testing, the randomness of it, the finding of it so as a matter of fact those 13 positives or whatever the number probably significantly understate the widespread use of hgh please >> i would agree with that. >> so the science isn't so much the question. dr. linn goldberg pass to that of the you, dr. bowers. are we ready? is the science ready for this kind of testing in the nfl? >> yes. we have a question before about the peer review. i can tell you why organize the media in 2004, of 75 people that attended, 20 were growth hormone experts that had no association with the sport and based on the recommendation of that meeting in 2004, the test was implemented at the olympics in athens in 2004 so there definitely has b